I was a Land Surveyor in my younger days and use a compass alot during
my current hikes. I see many bearings posted in directions for letter
boxes, but no one specifies the system that is being used. Magnetic or
True north. In my area that is a 15 degree difference. Some of the
descriptions that I have read have four or five legs to the LB and a 15
degree diffence in a compass reading can make a diffence. I practice
what system is generally used? I am assuming that many LBer's are
experienced with a compass and use the True North system.
Thank you,
Baker
Compass Bearings
30 messages in this thread |
Started on 2005-08-14
Compass Bearings
From: knightbaker63 (knightbaker63@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-08-14 00:09:11 UTC
Re: Compass Bearings
From: Mike Brooks (mbrooks31@cox.net) |
Date: 2005-08-14 01:21:41 UTC
I haven't found any unusual amount of compass experience in
letterboxing, just the normal amount of experience gained in hiking.
If a map isn't involved, such as a clue that goes from landmark to
landmark in the field, my experience is that the bearing is magnetic.
Why would a hider mess around with declination in such a situation?
Mike
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "knightbaker63"
wrote:
> I was a Land Surveyor in my younger days and use a compass alot
during
> my current hikes. I see many bearings posted in directions for letter
> boxes, but no one specifies the system that is being used. Magnetic
or
> True north. In my area that is a 15 degree difference. Some of the
> descriptions that I have read have four or five legs to the LB and a
15
> degree diffence in a compass reading can make a diffence. I practice
> what system is generally used? I am assuming that many LBer's are
> experienced with a compass and use the True North system.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Baker
letterboxing, just the normal amount of experience gained in hiking.
If a map isn't involved, such as a clue that goes from landmark to
landmark in the field, my experience is that the bearing is magnetic.
Why would a hider mess around with declination in such a situation?
Mike
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "knightbaker63"
> I was a Land Surveyor in my younger days and use a compass alot
during
> my current hikes. I see many bearings posted in directions for letter
> boxes, but no one specifies the system that is being used. Magnetic
or
> True north. In my area that is a 15 degree difference. Some of the
> descriptions that I have read have four or five legs to the LB and a
15
> degree diffence in a compass reading can make a diffence. I practice
> what system is generally used? I am assuming that many LBer's are
> experienced with a compass and use the True North system.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Baker
Re: Compass Bearings
From: knightbaker63 (knightbaker63@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-08-14 01:50:01 UTC
Hello Mike,
I agree with you as most of the distances are short and USGS maps are
usually not needed. I just wanted to get a make sure that I give my
clues in a system that is generally used by LB'ers. I don't want to
confuse things because I use a different system.
Thank you
-- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Brooks"
wrote:
> I haven't found any unusual amount of compass experience in
> letterboxing, just the normal amount of experience gained in hiking.
> If a map isn't involved, such as a clue that goes from landmark to
> landmark in the field, my experience is that the bearing is magnetic.
> Why would a hider mess around with declination in such a situation?
>
> Mike
>
>
I agree with you as most of the distances are short and USGS maps are
usually not needed. I just wanted to get a make sure that I give my
clues in a system that is generally used by LB'ers. I don't want to
confuse things because I use a different system.
Thank you
-- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Brooks"
wrote:
> I haven't found any unusual amount of compass experience in
> letterboxing, just the normal amount of experience gained in hiking.
> If a map isn't involved, such as a clue that goes from landmark to
> landmark in the field, my experience is that the bearing is magnetic.
> Why would a hider mess around with declination in such a situation?
>
> Mike
>
>
Re: [LbNA] Re: Compass Bearings
From: John Chapman (john@johnsblog.com) |
Date: 2005-08-13 22:00:18 UTC-04:00
I think that unless stated, everyone uses magnetic in letterboxing since we
aren't usually dealing with map references.
Choi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Brooks"
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 21:21
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Compass Bearings
> I haven't found any unusual amount of compass experience in
> letterboxing, just the normal amount of experience gained in hiking.
> If a map isn't involved, such as a clue that goes from landmark to
> landmark in the field, my experience is that the bearing is magnetic.
> Why would a hider mess around with declination in such a situation?
>
> Mike
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "knightbaker63"
> wrote:
> > I was a Land Surveyor in my younger days and use a compass alot
> during
> > my current hikes. I see many bearings posted in directions for letter
> > boxes, but no one specifies the system that is being used. Magnetic
> or
> > True north. In my area that is a 15 degree difference. Some of the
> > descriptions that I have read have four or five legs to the LB and a
> 15
> > degree diffence in a compass reading can make a diffence. I practice
> > what system is generally used? I am assuming that many LBer's are
> > experienced with a compass and use the True North system.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Baker
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
aren't usually dealing with map references.
Choi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Brooks"
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 21:21
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Compass Bearings
> I haven't found any unusual amount of compass experience in
> letterboxing, just the normal amount of experience gained in hiking.
> If a map isn't involved, such as a clue that goes from landmark to
> landmark in the field, my experience is that the bearing is magnetic.
> Why would a hider mess around with declination in such a situation?
>
> Mike
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "knightbaker63"
>
> > I was a Land Surveyor in my younger days and use a compass alot
> during
> > my current hikes. I see many bearings posted in directions for letter
> > boxes, but no one specifies the system that is being used. Magnetic
> or
> > True north. In my area that is a 15 degree difference. Some of the
> > descriptions that I have read have four or five legs to the LB and a
> 15
> > degree diffence in a compass reading can make a diffence. I practice
> > what system is generally used? I am assuming that many LBer's are
> > experienced with a compass and use the True North system.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Baker
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: Compass Bearings
From: John (jprovetto@earthlink.net) |
Date: 2005-08-14 19:00:16 UTC
I work in land survey and previously in forestry. The rule of thumb
that I work with in letterboxing is if nothing is mentioned it's
magnetic. I did my box in true bearings and made sure to note it.
As one mapping profesional to another, when I search, I read the clues
with the attitude that they were written by somebody who wasn't
trained to describe things like an outdoor professional. ie, calling
a forked tree a tree that's split in half. When I read that I assume
they're talking about a tree that was split in half by lightning.
Being that this is not a professional endeaver and lives and
livelihoods are not dependent on it, it's not to big a deal.
However, I must say that no matter how hard a clue is, it has to make
some kind of sense to a normal thinking person once the pieces are in
place. There are some placers who think that because they make a
connection, everyone else should when that's not possible without
psychoanalizing them. The hardest mystery box I've found was deepest
NJ. It took me more than a year, but when I found the pieces, it made
perfect sense.
that I work with in letterboxing is if nothing is mentioned it's
magnetic. I did my box in true bearings and made sure to note it.
As one mapping profesional to another, when I search, I read the clues
with the attitude that they were written by somebody who wasn't
trained to describe things like an outdoor professional. ie, calling
a forked tree a tree that's split in half. When I read that I assume
they're talking about a tree that was split in half by lightning.
Being that this is not a professional endeaver and lives and
livelihoods are not dependent on it, it's not to big a deal.
However, I must say that no matter how hard a clue is, it has to make
some kind of sense to a normal thinking person once the pieces are in
place. There are some placers who think that because they make a
connection, everyone else should when that's not possible without
psychoanalizing them. The hardest mystery box I've found was deepest
NJ. It took me more than a year, but when I found the pieces, it made
perfect sense.
Re: Compass Bearings
From: John (jprovetto@earthlink.net) |
Date: 2005-08-14 19:06:28 UTC
>I am assuming that many LBer's are
> experienced with a compass and use the True North system.
Not really. I couldn't make a south Jersey/PA gathering earlier in
the year and people had asked that I give lessons in map & compass.
It's a wonder some of them don't use compasses from Cracker Jacks
boxes.
> experienced with a compass and use the True North system.
Not really. I couldn't make a south Jersey/PA gathering earlier in
the year and people had asked that I give lessons in map & compass.
It's a wonder some of them don't use compasses from Cracker Jacks
boxes.
Re: Compass Bearings
From: cpascott (seh-letterbox@comcast.net) |
Date: 2005-08-14 19:11:32 UTC
I am assuming that many LBer's are
> experienced with a compass and use the True North system.
The opposite is true. Assume magnetic north unless told otherwise. I
too have my compass declinated to True North, and find I have to
adjust the 15 degrees 95% of the time. Matter-of-fact, I'm
considering undeclinating my compass to make it easier.
CPAScott
> experienced with a compass and use the True North system.
The opposite is true. Assume magnetic north unless told otherwise. I
too have my compass declinated to True North, and find I have to
adjust the 15 degrees 95% of the time. Matter-of-fact, I'm
considering undeclinating my compass to make it easier.
CPAScott
Suggested Compasses (was Re: [LbNA] Re: Compass Bearings)
From: Barefoot Lucy (barefootlucy@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-08-14 12:25:50 UTC-07:00
Okay you professional compass folks:
What do YOU consider to be key features of a good
compass? What features are NOT good or unnecessary?
Would you recommend a specific type of
compass/specific brand?
What do you think is the minimum you would have to
spend to get a reasonably good compass?
Here's where I am coming from: In addition to being a
letterboxer, I'm also a scouter, and while I use a
compass in both of those pursuits, there is no chance
I would need one professionally in the foreseeable
future. I am willing to spend more on my own compass,
especially if it means I can do a better job of
teaching compass skills. I would also like to be able
to either purchase or recommend a solid compass for
older cub scouts (10-11 year olds). I don't support
the idea of buying cheap because they are boys - I
think it's important to give them a reasonably good
piece of equipment to learn on.
I know this discussion has been covered before, but
it's been awhile and it doesn't hurt to revisit it
occasionally.
Lucy
--- John wrote:
> >I am assuming that many LBer's are
> > experienced with a compass and use the True North
> system.
>
> Not really. I couldn't make a south Jersey/PA
> gathering earlier in
> the year and people had asked that I give lessons in
> map & compass.
> It's a wonder some of them don't use compasses from
> Cracker Jacks
> boxes.
>
>
>
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What do YOU consider to be key features of a good
compass? What features are NOT good or unnecessary?
Would you recommend a specific type of
compass/specific brand?
What do you think is the minimum you would have to
spend to get a reasonably good compass?
Here's where I am coming from: In addition to being a
letterboxer, I'm also a scouter, and while I use a
compass in both of those pursuits, there is no chance
I would need one professionally in the foreseeable
future. I am willing to spend more on my own compass,
especially if it means I can do a better job of
teaching compass skills. I would also like to be able
to either purchase or recommend a solid compass for
older cub scouts (10-11 year olds). I don't support
the idea of buying cheap because they are boys - I
think it's important to give them a reasonably good
piece of equipment to learn on.
I know this discussion has been covered before, but
it's been awhile and it doesn't hurt to revisit it
occasionally.
Lucy
--- John
> >I am assuming that many LBer's are
> > experienced with a compass and use the True North
> system.
>
> Not really. I couldn't make a south Jersey/PA
> gathering earlier in
> the year and people had asked that I give lessons in
> map & compass.
> It's a wonder some of them don't use compasses from
> Cracker Jacks
> boxes.
>
>
>
____________________________________________________
Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Suggested Compasses (was Re: [LbNA] Re: Compass Bearings)
From: John (jprovetto@earthlink.net) |
Date: 2005-08-14 19:50:38 UTC
You don't have to spend too much. My compass is a Silva Ranger
which cost around $50. You could get a decent one for between $12
and $25. The silva explorer is what I used when I was a scout.
Most of the "baseplate" type compasses are good because they can be
used more easily with maps.
Other than that you'd want a 360 degree azimuth dial with 2 degree
calibrations. Don't let anybody fool you. You can't read any more
accurately than that with a hand compass. The baseplate has a
direction of travel arrow. Also, there are some compasses that have
declination scales to estimate true bearings. Some compasses, like
mine, allow you to actually set declination so that you're always
working in true north in a particular area. Those compasses are
more expensive. I'm involved with Search & Rescue and I always keep
mine set for TN. However, you have to remember to reset it when you
go to another area. It's also good to have a compass that is liquid
filled to prevent the needle from shaking too much. Make sure to
have a laniard to keep in around your neck where it's available for
easy readings.
I hope that was helpfull.
which cost around $50. You could get a decent one for between $12
and $25. The silva explorer is what I used when I was a scout.
Most of the "baseplate" type compasses are good because they can be
used more easily with maps.
Other than that you'd want a 360 degree azimuth dial with 2 degree
calibrations. Don't let anybody fool you. You can't read any more
accurately than that with a hand compass. The baseplate has a
direction of travel arrow. Also, there are some compasses that have
declination scales to estimate true bearings. Some compasses, like
mine, allow you to actually set declination so that you're always
working in true north in a particular area. Those compasses are
more expensive. I'm involved with Search & Rescue and I always keep
mine set for TN. However, you have to remember to reset it when you
go to another area. It's also good to have a compass that is liquid
filled to prevent the needle from shaking too much. Make sure to
have a laniard to keep in around your neck where it's available for
easy readings.
I hope that was helpfull.
Re: Compass Bearings
From: John (jprovetto@earthlink.net) |
Date: 2005-08-14 19:56:54 UTC
Actually, I'm involve in Search and Rescue and there is a trend
towards working totally in magnetic. The idea is to let the command
post do all the conversions. I almost got into trouble in a big
search in June when I came back from another area and forgot to reset
my declination. Fortunately, I had my GPS as a check.
towards working totally in magnetic. The idea is to let the command
post do all the conversions. I almost got into trouble in a big
search in June when I came back from another area and forgot to reset
my declination. Fortunately, I had my GPS as a check.
Re: Compass Bearings
From: knightbaker63 (knightbaker63@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-08-14 20:00:57 UTC
Makes good sense. Thanks
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote:
> I work in land survey and previously in forestry. The rule of
thumb
> that I work with in letterboxing is if nothing is mentioned it's
> magnetic. I did my box in true bearings and made sure to note it.
>
> As one mapping profesional to another, when I search, I read the
clues
> with the attitude that they were written by somebody who wasn't
> trained to describe things like an outdoor professional. ie,
calling
> a forked tree a tree that's split in half. When I read that I
assume
> they're talking about a tree that was split in half by lightning.
> Being that this is not a professional endeaver and lives and
> livelihoods are not dependent on it, it's not to big a deal.
>
> However, I must say that no matter how hard a clue is, it has to
make
> some kind of sense to a normal thinking person once the pieces are
in
> place. There are some placers who think that because they make a
> connection, everyone else should when that's not possible without
> psychoanalizing them. The hardest mystery box I've found was
deepest
> NJ. It took me more than a year, but when I found the pieces, it
made
> perfect sense.
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "John"
> I work in land survey and previously in forestry. The rule of
thumb
> that I work with in letterboxing is if nothing is mentioned it's
> magnetic. I did my box in true bearings and made sure to note it.
>
> As one mapping profesional to another, when I search, I read the
clues
> with the attitude that they were written by somebody who wasn't
> trained to describe things like an outdoor professional. ie,
calling
> a forked tree a tree that's split in half. When I read that I
assume
> they're talking about a tree that was split in half by lightning.
> Being that this is not a professional endeaver and lives and
> livelihoods are not dependent on it, it's not to big a deal.
>
> However, I must say that no matter how hard a clue is, it has to
make
> some kind of sense to a normal thinking person once the pieces are
in
> place. There are some placers who think that because they make a
> connection, everyone else should when that's not possible without
> psychoanalizing them. The hardest mystery box I've found was
deepest
> NJ. It took me more than a year, but when I found the pieces, it
made
> perfect sense.
Re: Suggested Compasses (was Re: [LbNA] Re: Compass Bearings)
From: Barefoot Lucy (barefootlucy@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-08-14 13:27:00 UTC-07:00
Yep...it's useful. I'v used several different models
of Silva compasses, but I've wondered if I didn't need
to look a little harder at other brands or types.
I had one recently that seemed to start sticking. I
only noticed it after someone questioned some clues I
wrote and I got to looking at the compass and noticed
it didn't float freely. I have no idea whether it
developed a small leak or what, but I threw it away so
I wouldn't try to use it again.
I bought my kids the blue Silva with a compass,
thermometer and whistle - I haven't quite figured out
why the thermometer is important, but I liked the idea
of them having a compass and a whistle together. I've
noticed though, that the compasses don't react quite
like my compass that I really like.
My husband has had his eye on a $100 lensatic - who
knows why, except that it would be a new playtoy!
Lucy
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of Silva compasses, but I've wondered if I didn't need
to look a little harder at other brands or types.
I had one recently that seemed to start sticking. I
only noticed it after someone questioned some clues I
wrote and I got to looking at the compass and noticed
it didn't float freely. I have no idea whether it
developed a small leak or what, but I threw it away so
I wouldn't try to use it again.
I bought my kids the blue Silva with a compass,
thermometer and whistle - I haven't quite figured out
why the thermometer is important, but I liked the idea
of them having a compass and a whistle together. I've
noticed though, that the compasses don't react quite
like my compass that I really like.
My husband has had his eye on a $100 lensatic - who
knows why, except that it would be a new playtoy!
Lucy
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Suggested Compasses (was Re: [LbNA] Re: Compass Bearings)
From: Lightnin Bug (rpboehme@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-08-14 22:10:40 UTC
If you have access to a "Scout Shop" in your area, the compasses
they have there are of good enough quality for practically all
letterboxing. Most are basic Silvas. My 11 yr Scout/Letterboxer
sidekick, Kirby Rider, really likes his.
LB
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Barefoot Lucy
wrote:
> Okay you professional compass folks:
>
> What do YOU consider to be key features of a good
> compass? What features are NOT good or unnecessary?
>
> Would you recommend a specific type of
> compass/specific brand?
>
> What do you think is the minimum you would have to
> spend to get a reasonably good compass?
>
> Here's where I am coming from: In addition to being a
> letterboxer, I'm also a scouter, and while I use a
> compass in both of those pursuits, there is no chance
> I would need one professionally in the foreseeable
> future. I am willing to spend more on my own compass,
> especially if it means I can do a better job of
> teaching compass skills. I would also like to be able
> to either purchase or recommend a solid compass for
> older cub scouts (10-11 year olds). I don't support
> the idea of buying cheap because they are boys - I
> think it's important to give them a reasonably good
> piece of equipment to learn on.
>
> I know this discussion has been covered before, but
> it's been awhile and it doesn't hurt to revisit it
> occasionally.
>
> Lucy
>
>
> --- John wrote:
>
> > >I am assuming that many LBer's are
> > > experienced with a compass and use the True North
> > system.
> >
> > Not really. I couldn't make a south Jersey/PA
> > gathering earlier in
> > the year and people had asked that I give lessons in
> > map & compass.
> > It's a wonder some of them don't use compasses from
> > Cracker Jacks
> > boxes.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________
> Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
they have there are of good enough quality for practically all
letterboxing. Most are basic Silvas. My 11 yr Scout/Letterboxer
sidekick, Kirby Rider, really likes his.
LB
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Barefoot Lucy
> Okay you professional compass folks:
>
> What do YOU consider to be key features of a good
> compass? What features are NOT good or unnecessary?
>
> Would you recommend a specific type of
> compass/specific brand?
>
> What do you think is the minimum you would have to
> spend to get a reasonably good compass?
>
> Here's where I am coming from: In addition to being a
> letterboxer, I'm also a scouter, and while I use a
> compass in both of those pursuits, there is no chance
> I would need one professionally in the foreseeable
> future. I am willing to spend more on my own compass,
> especially if it means I can do a better job of
> teaching compass skills. I would also like to be able
> to either purchase or recommend a solid compass for
> older cub scouts (10-11 year olds). I don't support
> the idea of buying cheap because they are boys - I
> think it's important to give them a reasonably good
> piece of equipment to learn on.
>
> I know this discussion has been covered before, but
> it's been awhile and it doesn't hurt to revisit it
> occasionally.
>
> Lucy
>
>
> --- John
>
> > >I am assuming that many LBer's are
> > > experienced with a compass and use the True North
> > system.
> >
> > Not really. I couldn't make a south Jersey/PA
> > gathering earlier in
> > the year and people had asked that I give lessons in
> > map & compass.
> > It's a wonder some of them don't use compasses from
> > Cracker Jacks
> > boxes.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________
> Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [LbNA] Re: Compass Bearings
From: Suzanne Coe (wilmcoe@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-08-14 16:36:12 UTC-07:00
Hey, don't knock it until you've tried it.... : )
It's a wonder some of them don't use compasses from Cracker Jacks
boxes.
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Re: Suggested Compasses (was Re: [LbNA] Re: Compass Bearings)
From: Barefoot Lucy (barefootlucy@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-08-14 16:44:39 UTC-07:00
Our Scout Shop is where I've gotten ours also, and
while I like them well enough, I've always wondered if
there weren't other brands or styles I should try.
You know - wondering if there is something I don't
know about that I'm missing out on...LOL
Lucy
--- Lightnin Bug wrote:
> If you have access to a "Scout Shop" in your area,
> the compasses
> they have there are of good enough quality for
> practically all
> letterboxing. Most are basic Silvas. My 11 yr
> Scout/Letterboxer
> sidekick, Kirby Rider, really likes his.
>
> LB
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Barefoot Lucy
> wrote:
> > Okay you professional compass folks:
> >
> > What do YOU consider to be key features of a good
> > compass? What features are NOT good or
> unnecessary?
> >
> > Would you recommend a specific type of
> > compass/specific brand?
> >
> > What do you think is the minimum you would have to
> > spend to get a reasonably good compass?
> >
> > Here's where I am coming from: In addition to
> being a
> > letterboxer, I'm also a scouter, and while I use a
> > compass in both of those pursuits, there is no
> chance
> > I would need one professionally in the foreseeable
> > future. I am willing to spend more on my own
> compass,
> > especially if it means I can do a better job of
> > teaching compass skills. I would also like to be
> able
> > to either purchase or recommend a solid compass
> for
> > older cub scouts (10-11 year olds). I don't
> support
> > the idea of buying cheap because they are boys - I
> > think it's important to give them a reasonably
> good
> > piece of equipment to learn on.
> >
> > I know this discussion has been covered before,
> but
> > it's been awhile and it doesn't hurt to revisit it
> > occasionally.
> >
> > Lucy
> >
> >
> > --- John wrote:
> >
> > > >I am assuming that many LBer's are
> > > > experienced with a compass and use the True
> North
> > > system.
> > >
> > > Not really. I couldn't make a south Jersey/PA
> > > gathering earlier in
> > > the year and people had asked that I give
> lessons in
> > > map & compass.
> > > It's a wonder some of them don't use compasses
> from
> > > Cracker Jacks
> > > boxes.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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while I like them well enough, I've always wondered if
there weren't other brands or styles I should try.
You know - wondering if there is something I don't
know about that I'm missing out on...LOL
Lucy
--- Lightnin Bug
> If you have access to a "Scout Shop" in your area,
> the compasses
> they have there are of good enough quality for
> practically all
> letterboxing. Most are basic Silvas. My 11 yr
> Scout/Letterboxer
> sidekick, Kirby Rider, really likes his.
>
> LB
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Barefoot Lucy
>
> > Okay you professional compass folks:
> >
> > What do YOU consider to be key features of a good
> > compass? What features are NOT good or
> unnecessary?
> >
> > Would you recommend a specific type of
> > compass/specific brand?
> >
> > What do you think is the minimum you would have to
> > spend to get a reasonably good compass?
> >
> > Here's where I am coming from: In addition to
> being a
> > letterboxer, I'm also a scouter, and while I use a
> > compass in both of those pursuits, there is no
> chance
> > I would need one professionally in the foreseeable
> > future. I am willing to spend more on my own
> compass,
> > especially if it means I can do a better job of
> > teaching compass skills. I would also like to be
> able
> > to either purchase or recommend a solid compass
> for
> > older cub scouts (10-11 year olds). I don't
> support
> > the idea of buying cheap because they are boys - I
> > think it's important to give them a reasonably
> good
> > piece of equipment to learn on.
> >
> > I know this discussion has been covered before,
> but
> > it's been awhile and it doesn't hurt to revisit it
> > occasionally.
> >
> > Lucy
> >
> >
> > --- John
> >
> > > >I am assuming that many LBer's are
> > > > experienced with a compass and use the True
> North
> > > system.
> > >
> > > Not really. I couldn't make a south Jersey/PA
> > > gathering earlier in
> > > the year and people had asked that I give
> lessons in
> > > map & compass.
> > > It's a wonder some of them don't use compasses
> from
> > > Cracker Jacks
> > > boxes.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ____________________________________________________
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Re: [LbNA] Re: Compass Bearings
From: JOY (TeamTexUS@houston.rr.com) |
Date: 2005-08-14 20:58:35 UTC-05:00
besides, it's part of a set- goes with my decoder ring!
JOY
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From: Suzanne Coe
Date: 08/14/05 18:36:34
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: Compass Bearings
Hey, don't knock it until you've tried it.... : )
It's a wonder some of them don't use compasses from Cracker Jacks
boxes.
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Hey, don't knock it until you've tried it.... : )
It's a wonder some of them don't use compasses from Cracker Jacks
boxes.
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Re: Compass Bearings
From: gerania93 (gerania93@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-08-15 02:09:05 UTC
I used to use the Cracker Jacks compass till I sold it on e-bay for
five hundred bucks. Crazy collectors will pay anything.
Which gathering was that? Just curious. I live in Jersey, I must have
missed it.
Not really. I couldn't make a south Jersey/PA gathering earlier in
> the year and people had asked that I give lessons in map & compass.
> It's a wonder some of them don't use compasses from Cracker Jacks
> boxes.
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote:
> >I am assuming that many LBer's are
> > experienced with a compass and use the True North system.
>
>
five hundred bucks. Crazy collectors will pay anything.
Which gathering was that? Just curious. I live in Jersey, I must have
missed it.
Not really. I couldn't make a south Jersey/PA gathering earlier in
> the year and people had asked that I give lessons in map & compass.
> It's a wonder some of them don't use compasses from Cracker Jacks
> boxes.
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "John"
> >I am assuming that many LBer's are
> > experienced with a compass and use the True North system.
>
>
Suggested Compasses (was Re: [LbNA] Re: Compass Bearings)
From: gerania93 (gerania93@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-08-15 02:21:14 UTC
Silva makes a good compass. A good compass is one which works and
will last for a while. They're like watches in a way. Jaeger-
LeCoultre is a nice watch, but Timex will give you the same time.
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Barefoot Lucy
wrote:
> Our Scout Shop is where I've gotten ours also, and
> while I like them well enough, I've always wondered if
> there weren't other brands or styles I should try.
> You know - wondering if there is something I don't
> know about that I'm missing out on...LOL
>
> Lucy
>
>
>
> --- Lightnin Bug wrote:
>
> > If you have access to a "Scout Shop" in your area,
> > the compasses
> > they have there are of good enough quality for
> > practically all
> > letterboxing. Most are basic Silvas. My 11 yr
> > Scout/Letterboxer
> > sidekick, Kirby Rider, really likes his.
> >
> > LB
> >
> > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Barefoot Lucy
> > wrote:
> > > Okay you professional compass folks:
> > >
> > > What do YOU consider to be key features of a good
> > > compass? What features are NOT good or
> > unnecessary?
> > >
> > > Would you recommend a specific type of
> > > compass/specific brand?
> > >
> > > What do you think is the minimum you would have to
> > > spend to get a reasonably good compass?
> > >
> > > Here's where I am coming from: In addition to
> > being a
> > > letterboxer, I'm also a scouter, and while I use a
> > > compass in both of those pursuits, there is no
> > chance
> > > I would need one professionally in the foreseeable
> > > future. I am willing to spend more on my own
> > compass,
> > > especially if it means I can do a better job of
> > > teaching compass skills. I would also like to be
> > able
> > > to either purchase or recommend a solid compass
> > for
> > > older cub scouts (10-11 year olds). I don't
> > support
> > > the idea of buying cheap because they are boys - I
> > > think it's important to give them a reasonably
> > good
> > > piece of equipment to learn on.
> > >
> > > I know this discussion has been covered before,
> > but
> > > it's been awhile and it doesn't hurt to revisit it
> > > occasionally.
> > >
> > > Lucy
> > >
> > >
> > > --- John wrote:
> > >
> > > > >I am assuming that many LBer's are
> > > > > experienced with a compass and use the True
> > North
> > > > system.
> > > >
> > > > Not really. I couldn't make a south Jersey/PA
> > > > gathering earlier in
> > > > the year and people had asked that I give
> > lessons in
> > > > map & compass.
> > > > It's a wonder some of them don't use compasses
> > from
> > > > Cracker Jacks
> > > > boxes.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > ____________________________________________________
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will last for a while. They're like watches in a way. Jaeger-
LeCoultre is a nice watch, but Timex will give you the same time.
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Barefoot Lucy
> Our Scout Shop is where I've gotten ours also, and
> while I like them well enough, I've always wondered if
> there weren't other brands or styles I should try.
> You know - wondering if there is something I don't
> know about that I'm missing out on...LOL
>
> Lucy
>
>
>
> --- Lightnin Bug
>
> > If you have access to a "Scout Shop" in your area,
> > the compasses
> > they have there are of good enough quality for
> > practically all
> > letterboxing. Most are basic Silvas. My 11 yr
> > Scout/Letterboxer
> > sidekick, Kirby Rider, really likes his.
> >
> > LB
> >
> > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Barefoot Lucy
> >
> > > Okay you professional compass folks:
> > >
> > > What do YOU consider to be key features of a good
> > > compass? What features are NOT good or
> > unnecessary?
> > >
> > > Would you recommend a specific type of
> > > compass/specific brand?
> > >
> > > What do you think is the minimum you would have to
> > > spend to get a reasonably good compass?
> > >
> > > Here's where I am coming from: In addition to
> > being a
> > > letterboxer, I'm also a scouter, and while I use a
> > > compass in both of those pursuits, there is no
> > chance
> > > I would need one professionally in the foreseeable
> > > future. I am willing to spend more on my own
> > compass,
> > > especially if it means I can do a better job of
> > > teaching compass skills. I would also like to be
> > able
> > > to either purchase or recommend a solid compass
> > for
> > > older cub scouts (10-11 year olds). I don't
> > support
> > > the idea of buying cheap because they are boys - I
> > > think it's important to give them a reasonably
> > good
> > > piece of equipment to learn on.
> > >
> > > I know this discussion has been covered before,
> > but
> > > it's been awhile and it doesn't hurt to revisit it
> > > occasionally.
> > >
> > > Lucy
> > >
> > >
> > > --- John
> > >
> > > > >I am assuming that many LBer's are
> > > > > experienced with a compass and use the True
> > North
> > > > system.
> > > >
> > > > Not really. I couldn't make a south Jersey/PA
> > > > gathering earlier in
> > > > the year and people had asked that I give
> > lessons in
> > > > map & compass.
> > > > It's a wonder some of them don't use compasses
> > from
> > > > Cracker Jacks
> > > > boxes.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > ____________________________________________________
> > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home
> > page
> > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
> >
> >
> >
>
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Suggested Compasses (was Re: [LbNA] Re: Compass Bearings)
From: cahillymom (acahilly@prodigy.net) |
Date: 2005-08-15 11:54:31 UTC
lucy,
check this out, enough for your whole troop in a nifty red carrying
case:
http://www.forestry-
suppliers.com/product_pages/view_catalog_page.asp?id=1262
If you cruise around the website you'll find they carry books, maps,
orienteering kit, compasses for overhead projectors... ; you need to
teach compass - they've got it.
Aud
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Barefoot Lucy
wrote:
> Okay you professional compass folks:
>
> What do YOU consider to be key features of a good
> compass? What features are NOT good or unnecessary?
>
> Would you recommend a specific type of
> compass/specific brand?
>
> What do you think is the minimum you would have to
> spend to get a reasonably good compass?
>
> Here's where I am coming from: In addition to being a
> letterboxer, I'm also a scouter, and while I use a
> compass in both of those pursuits, there is no chance
> I would need one professionally in the foreseeable
> future. I am willing to spend more on my own compass,
> especially if it means I can do a better job of
> teaching compass skills. I would also like to be able
> to either purchase or recommend a solid compass for
> older cub scouts (10-11 year olds). I don't support
> the idea of buying cheap because they are boys - I
> think it's important to give them a reasonably good
> piece of equipment to learn on.
>
> I know this discussion has been covered before, but
> it's been awhile and it doesn't hurt to revisit it
> occasionally.
>
> Lucy
>
>
> --- John wrote:
>
> > >I am assuming that many LBer's are
> > > experienced with a compass and use the True North
> > system.
> >
> > Not really. I couldn't make a south Jersey/PA
> > gathering earlier in
> > the year and people had asked that I give lessons in
> > map & compass.
> > It's a wonder some of them don't use compasses from
> > Cracker Jacks
> > boxes.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________
> Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
check this out, enough for your whole troop in a nifty red carrying
case:
http://www.forestry-
suppliers.com/product_pages/view_catalog_page.asp?id=1262
If you cruise around the website you'll find they carry books, maps,
orienteering kit, compasses for overhead projectors... ; you need to
teach compass - they've got it.
Aud
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Barefoot Lucy
> Okay you professional compass folks:
>
> What do YOU consider to be key features of a good
> compass? What features are NOT good or unnecessary?
>
> Would you recommend a specific type of
> compass/specific brand?
>
> What do you think is the minimum you would have to
> spend to get a reasonably good compass?
>
> Here's where I am coming from: In addition to being a
> letterboxer, I'm also a scouter, and while I use a
> compass in both of those pursuits, there is no chance
> I would need one professionally in the foreseeable
> future. I am willing to spend more on my own compass,
> especially if it means I can do a better job of
> teaching compass skills. I would also like to be able
> to either purchase or recommend a solid compass for
> older cub scouts (10-11 year olds). I don't support
> the idea of buying cheap because they are boys - I
> think it's important to give them a reasonably good
> piece of equipment to learn on.
>
> I know this discussion has been covered before, but
> it's been awhile and it doesn't hurt to revisit it
> occasionally.
>
> Lucy
>
>
> --- John
>
> > >I am assuming that many LBer's are
> > > experienced with a compass and use the True North
> > system.
> >
> > Not really. I couldn't make a south Jersey/PA
> > gathering earlier in
> > the year and people had asked that I give lessons in
> > map & compass.
> > It's a wonder some of them don't use compasses from
> > Cracker Jacks
> > boxes.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________
> Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
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Re: Compass Bearings
From: wpastfarm (ckanaa@netscape.net) |
Date: 2005-08-15 14:12:59 UTC
OK, do tell, which box was that? ~ the b's
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote:
The hardest mystery box I've found was deepest
> NJ. It took me more than a year, but when I found the pieces, it
made
> perfect sense.
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "John"
The hardest mystery box I've found was deepest
> NJ. It took me more than a year, but when I found the pieces, it
made
> perfect sense.
Suggested Compasses (was Re: [LbNA] Re: Compass Bearings)
From: rscarpen (letterboxing@atlasquest.com) |
Date: 2005-08-15 14:31:07 UTC
> What do YOU consider to be key features of a good
> compass? What features are NOT good or unnecessary?
>
> Would you recommend a specific type of
> compass/specific brand?
>
> What do you think is the minimum you would have to
> spend to get a reasonably good compass?
I have anwers for all of those questions in the compass tutorial on
Atlas Quest. http://www.atlasquest.com/tutorials/compass/terms.html
Well, it doesn't really talk about feature that are NOT good or
unnecessary, but if I didn't list a feature, it's unnecessary. =)
Happy trails!
-- Ryan
> compass? What features are NOT good or unnecessary?
>
> Would you recommend a specific type of
> compass/specific brand?
>
> What do you think is the minimum you would have to
> spend to get a reasonably good compass?
I have anwers for all of those questions in the compass tutorial on
Atlas Quest. http://www.atlasquest.com/tutorials/compass/terms.html
Well, it doesn't really talk about feature that are NOT good or
unnecessary, but if I didn't list a feature, it's unnecessary. =)
Happy trails!
-- Ryan
Re: Compass Bearings
From: Lightnin Bug (rpboehme@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-08-15 16:03:07 UTC
Deepest NJ. It does look like a fun one.
LB over in PA
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "wpastfarm" wrote:
> OK, do tell, which box was that? ~ the b's
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote:
> The hardest mystery box I've found was deepest
> > NJ. It took me more than a year, but when I found the pieces, it
> made
> > perfect sense.
LB over in PA
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "wpastfarm"
> OK, do tell, which box was that? ~ the b's
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "John"
> The hardest mystery box I've found was deepest
> > NJ. It took me more than a year, but when I found the pieces, it
> made
> > perfect sense.
Re: [LbNA] Re: Compass Bearings
From: Suzanne Coe (wilmcoe@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-08-15 14:51:05 UTC-07:00
Looks like another 10 month's work. At least.
Lightnin Bug wrote:Deepest NJ. It does look like a fun one.
LB over in PA
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "wpastfarm" wrote:
> OK, do tell, which box was that? ~ the b's
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote:
> The hardest mystery box I've found was deepest
> > NJ. It took me more than a year, but when I found the pieces, it
> made
> > perfect sense.
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LB over in PA
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> OK, do tell, which box was that? ~ the b's
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "John"
> The hardest mystery box I've found was deepest
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Re: Compass Bearings
From: Rick in Boca (rick_in_boca@bigfoot.com) |
Date: 2005-08-15 22:03:44 UTC
On behalf of many people who were never boy scouts and who bought their
compass at Target, I have no idea what you are talking about. I didn't
even know there were two different bearings. Should I be confused?
compass at Target, I have no idea what you are talking about. I didn't
even know there were two different bearings. Should I be confused?
Re: [LbNA] Re: Compass Bearings
From: Suzanne Coe (wilmcoe@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-08-15 15:24:22 UTC-07:00
I'd think not, as long as you're finding the boxes! My Target compass works just fine. (On the other hand, sometimes I think there might be something wrong with ME....)
Rick in Boca wrote:On behalf of many people who were never boy scouts and who bought their
compass at Target, I have no idea what you are talking about. I didn't
even know there were two different bearings. Should I be confused?
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Re: Compass Bearings
From: wpastfarm (ckanaa@netscape.net) |
Date: 2005-08-15 22:31:22 UTC
All together now: duuhhhhh.... Sorry for that stupid question. I
read it as being *in* deepest NJ so I guess that "clue" is out the
window. I have been working on that one to no avail. LB is just
saying it looks like fun because it reminds him of his maddening
$tock$ and con$ box. ;o)
~ the b's
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Lightnin Bug"
wrote:
> Deepest NJ. It does look like a fun one.
>
> LB over in PA
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "wpastfarm"
wrote:
> > OK, do tell, which box was that? ~ the b's
> >
> > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "John"
wrote:
> > The hardest mystery box I've found was deepest
> > > NJ. It took me more than a year, but when I found the pieces,
it
> > made
> > > perfect sense.
read it as being *in* deepest NJ so I guess that "clue" is out the
window. I have been working on that one to no avail. LB is just
saying it looks like fun because it reminds him of his maddening
$tock$ and con$ box. ;o)
~ the b's
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Lightnin Bug"
wrote:
> Deepest NJ. It does look like a fun one.
>
> LB over in PA
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "wpastfarm"
wrote:
> > OK, do tell, which box was that? ~ the b's
> >
> > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "John"
wrote:
> > The hardest mystery box I've found was deepest
> > > NJ. It took me more than a year, but when I found the pieces,
it
> > made
> > > perfect sense.
RE: [LbNA] Re: Compass Bearings
From: Mosey (PonyExpressMail@comcast.net) |
Date: 2005-08-15 18:10:01 UTC-05:00
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
~~ Mosey ~~
Actually I went in for "trinkets" as a teeny weeny. Still have them all. I
carry a couple of old Cracker Jack compasses in my glove box. Just in case
I leave home without my "real" one. I get lost. I also forget and leave
things at home. JC compasses have worked just fine so far. I don't know
whether that says something about me as a finder or something about the
placer. :-) Or something about Cracker Jack.
One of my most memorable hours was having a cop pull over behind me on a
highway. He came up to my window, thinking I was having truck trouble. I
said nope, I was just temporarily lost, just checking my compass. His eyes
bugged out better than if he'd spotted a hundred kilos of cocaine in my
truck. He said "Holy! That's a Cracker Jack!" I said yep, sure was. He
said "Does it work?!?" I said yep, sure does.
-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Rick in Boca
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:04 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Compass Bearings
On behalf of many people who were never boy scouts and who bought their
compass at Target, I have no idea what you are talking about. I didn't
even know there were two different bearings. Should I be confused?
~~ Mosey ~~
Actually I went in for "trinkets" as a teeny weeny. Still have them all. I
carry a couple of old Cracker Jack compasses in my glove box. Just in case
I leave home without my "real" one. I get lost. I also forget and leave
things at home. JC compasses have worked just fine so far. I don't know
whether that says something about me as a finder or something about the
placer. :-) Or something about Cracker Jack.
One of my most memorable hours was having a cop pull over behind me on a
highway. He came up to my window, thinking I was having truck trouble. I
said nope, I was just temporarily lost, just checking my compass. His eyes
bugged out better than if he'd spotted a hundred kilos of cocaine in my
truck. He said "Holy! That's a Cracker Jack!" I said yep, sure was. He
said "Does it work?!?" I said yep, sure does.
-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Rick in Boca
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:04 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Compass Bearings
On behalf of many people who were never boy scouts and who bought their
compass at Target, I have no idea what you are talking about. I didn't
even know there were two different bearings. Should I be confused?
Re: Compass Bearings
From: gerania93 (gerania93@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-08-16 00:48:10 UTC
I wish there were a Deepest, NJ because then maybe I could find the
box. I haven't yet, either. There's something Fishy Going on Here and
Spawn of Swamp Thing are driving me to the brink of insanity too.
Gerania
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "wpastfarm" wrote:
> All together now: duuhhhhh.... Sorry for that stupid question. I
> read it as being *in* deepest NJ so I guess that "clue" is out the
> window. I have been working on that one to no avail. LB is just
> saying it looks like fun because it reminds him of his maddening
> $tock$ and con$ box. ;o)
>
> ~ the b's
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Lightnin Bug"
> wrote:
> > Deepest NJ. It does look like a fun one.
> >
> > LB over in PA
> >
> > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "wpastfarm"
> wrote:
> > > OK, do tell, which box was that? ~ the b's
> > >
> > > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "John"
> wrote:
> > > The hardest mystery box I've found was deepest
> > > > NJ. It took me more than a year, but when I found the
pieces,
> it
> > > made
> > > > perfect sense.
box. I haven't yet, either. There's something Fishy Going on Here and
Spawn of Swamp Thing are driving me to the brink of insanity too.
Gerania
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "wpastfarm"
> All together now: duuhhhhh.... Sorry for that stupid question. I
> read it as being *in* deepest NJ so I guess that "clue" is out the
> window. I have been working on that one to no avail. LB is just
> saying it looks like fun because it reminds him of his maddening
> $tock$ and con$ box. ;o)
>
> ~ the b's
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Lightnin Bug"
> wrote:
> > Deepest NJ. It does look like a fun one.
> >
> > LB over in PA
> >
> > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "wpastfarm"
> wrote:
> > > OK, do tell, which box was that? ~ the b's
> > >
> > > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "John"
> wrote:
> > > The hardest mystery box I've found was deepest
> > > > NJ. It took me more than a year, but when I found the
pieces,
> it
> > > made
> > > > perfect sense.
Re: Compass Bearings
From: aintnorock19 (cdf19@comcast.net) |
Date: 2005-08-16 01:03:22 UTC
Don't be confused. Compasses point to magnetic north, which is not
actually at the North Pole. Magnetic North is southeast of the
North Pole by several hundred miles. Therefore, depending on where
you are looking at a compass, there is a "true" north which is the
North Pole (and what maps would be using), and a "magnetic" north
which could be as much as 30 degrees or more different.
Are you really confused now? I would assume most clues would be
based on magnetic North, as others have said.
aintnorock.
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Rick in Boca"
wrote:
> On behalf of many people who were never boy scouts and who bought
their
> compass at Target, I have no idea what you are talking about. I
didn't
> even know there were two different bearings. Should I be confused?
actually at the North Pole. Magnetic North is southeast of the
North Pole by several hundred miles. Therefore, depending on where
you are looking at a compass, there is a "true" north which is the
North Pole (and what maps would be using), and a "magnetic" north
which could be as much as 30 degrees or more different.
Are you really confused now? I would assume most clues would be
based on magnetic North, as others have said.
aintnorock.
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Rick in Boca"
> On behalf of many people who were never boy scouts and who bought
their
> compass at Target, I have no idea what you are talking about. I
didn't
> even know there were two different bearings. Should I be confused?
Re: Compass Bearings
From: cahillymom (acahilly@prodigy.net) |
Date: 2005-08-16 23:35:57 UTC
I'm doing the happy dance today. I just figured out who Margaret,
Mary and Barbara are, I know where the box is, and I'll get it next
week, if it's still there.
The fish is more than annoying, and I've gone out after uprising 5
times and come home empty-handed.
Are mystery boxes like this all over, or is it just a NJ thing?
Aud
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "gerania93"
wrote:
> I wish there were a Deepest, NJ because then maybe I could find
the
> box. I haven't yet, either. There's something Fishy Going on Here
and
> Spawn of Swamp Thing are driving me to the brink of insanity too.
>
> Gerania
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "wpastfarm"
wrote:
> > All together now: duuhhhhh.... Sorry for that stupid question.
I
> > read it as being *in* deepest NJ so I guess that "clue" is out
the
> > window. I have been working on that one to no avail. LB is
just
> > saying it looks like fun because it reminds him of his maddening
> > $tock$ and con$ box. ;o)
> >
> > ~ the b's
> >
> > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Lightnin Bug"
>
> > wrote:
> > > Deepest NJ. It does look like a fun one.
> > >
> > > LB over in PA
> > >
> > > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "wpastfarm"
> > wrote:
> > > > OK, do tell, which box was that? ~ the b's
> > > >
> > > > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "John"
> > wrote:
> > > > The hardest mystery box I've found was deepest
> > > > > NJ. It took me more than a year, but when I found the
> pieces,
> > it
> > > > made
> > > > > perfect sense.
Mary and Barbara are, I know where the box is, and I'll get it next
week, if it's still there.
The fish is more than annoying, and I've gone out after uprising 5
times and come home empty-handed.
Are mystery boxes like this all over, or is it just a NJ thing?
Aud
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "gerania93"
wrote:
> I wish there were a Deepest, NJ because then maybe I could find
the
> box. I haven't yet, either. There's something Fishy Going on Here
and
> Spawn of Swamp Thing are driving me to the brink of insanity too.
>
> Gerania
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "wpastfarm"
wrote:
> > All together now: duuhhhhh.... Sorry for that stupid question.
I
> > read it as being *in* deepest NJ so I guess that "clue" is out
the
> > window. I have been working on that one to no avail. LB is
just
> > saying it looks like fun because it reminds him of his maddening
> > $tock$ and con$ box. ;o)
> >
> > ~ the b's
> >
> > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Lightnin Bug"
>
> > wrote:
> > > Deepest NJ. It does look like a fun one.
> > >
> > > LB over in PA
> > >
> > > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "wpastfarm"
> > wrote:
> > > > OK, do tell, which box was that? ~ the b's
> > > >
> > > > --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "John"
> > wrote:
> > > > The hardest mystery box I've found was deepest
> > > > > NJ. It took me more than a year, but when I found the
> pieces,
> > it
> > > > made
> > > > > perfect sense.